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'Old Souls' - People said to be incarnated 'angels' and other higher beings


Many people intuitively feel that they are incarnations of angels or other higher beings, or indeed extra-terrestrials. However, my own experience suggests that a very different situation exists, and indeed there is a real problem about believing in the existence of higher beings or indeed non-physical beings at all.
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Over the years I have regularly looked in forums where people have posted about the contents of this and certain other pages on this site, and so far every time this has been a pretty frustrating and discouraging experience. Why? Because people are disagreeing with me?

-- No, it's not that (although indeed, predictably, plenty of people do 'disagree' with me). It's because so far I have seen no sign of even one person having read this (or the other respective pages) really carefully and without some sort of preconception that causes them to have a seriously distorted interpretation of at least some part of what I've written - even on the rare occasion when somebody does more or less 'agree' with what they think I've written.

It would be so helpful if people who come here would let go of their preconceived notions and read carefully what I'm actually saying - and then sleep on it and then re-read it to see where their interpretation of what I've written has actually turned it into something else, so that they can at least get a more accurate view of what I've written - whether or not they eventually choose to 'agree' with it. 

I wouldn't mind so much if people at least took issue with what I am actually saying, but they almost invariably go telling the world that I "believe" or am saying this and that and the other that actually I hadn't said at all, or they radically change the meaning of something by taking it out of context, and typically a succession of people then go pulling the stuffing out of what I'd actually never said in the first place, then regarding me as some sort of deluded 'nutter' with very confused ideas, who is best steered clear of. The reality is that it is the people who keep misinterpreting and misrepresenting my writings who are the confused ones.

It would help so much if those who are about to make forum posts about any of my material checked carefully the accuracy of any supposed quote or interpretation of that material before making their post.

Also, a careful reader would understand from what I've written, that I hold no beliefs, and that what I present below is a set of helpful working hypotheses (at least they've helped me greatly) - NOT a statement of categorical fact, apart from recounting actual observations / experiences of mine. So, anyone who says "Philip Goddard believes that..." is straightaway off the rails, simply spouting opinion, and is not worth heeding at all.



Stop - Let's do a rethink here!

In mid 2007 I removed the original contents of this page, and removed altogether another page, Higher Beings, Old Souls And Their Origins. For an explanation, please see Better Without Channelling. That is not the end of the story, however, so please read on here because what follows is important information.

I had channelled a scenario in which many of us - albeit quite a small minority - were supposedly 'old souls' (something quite widely believed), and in which there was a range of different types of people according to their supposed soul origin and evolutionary history before arriving here on Earth.

Such differences between people are something that I clearly observe, and which appear to require an explanation. However, the problem is that in taking on the sort of explanation that I'd taken on, and the associated description of a hierarchical 'higher reality' with all its 'dimensions' and realms and types of non-physical being, we play into the hands of the dark force*, which latter ensures that we receive distorted information and also seeks to get us hooked on illusory 'spiritual realities' rather than the fundamental reality of your innermost nature (naked awareness) and what is often called 'What Is'.

* I refer to 'the dark force' (singular) rather than the more usual plural usage of that term, because, as I explain in The True Nature of 'The Dark Force' and its Interference and Attacks, there is a specific phenomenon - the cacoprotean network - that is the primary aspect of the 'dark force', and there cannot be more than one of it at any particular time.

So, my counsel to people who believe that they are incarnations of angels, other higher beings or indeed supposed extra-terrestrials such as Pleiadeans or Sirians, or are simply wondering if they are, is that although we have no way of absolutely knowing that they aren't something of the sort, whatever has gone on for them in the past is just a story whose veracity they can never establish, and involvement with which would obstruct their progress to enlightenment and full self realization, and indeed help to entrap them further in illusory realities in which they are under the control of the dark force.

I've learnt from my own difficult experiences that the dark force, posing as guiding higher beings, seeks strenuously to persuade particular people that they were some prominent person in a previous lifetime, or/and are incarnations of specific higher beings or important-seeming extra-terrestrials. I myself was told that I'd been, among others, the (purported) historical Gilgamesh, Roman emperor Trajan (father of Hadrian), the biblical Elisha and Jesus' disciple Simon Peter (indeed, for a couple of months I was told I'd actually been Jesus), and I was allegedly one of five current direct incarnations of Archangel Michael, and had lived for a long time in a Pleiadean civilization before coming to Earth 50,000 years ago, and was meant to be almost imminently a sort of spiritual world leader in an enlightened civilization here on Earth, brought about by a transformation of Humanity over a small number of years*.

* As is the way with the dark force, the stories that it gives us are typically distortions of actual situations (past, present or speculated future), and for a speculative discussion of what looks like being the real future for the human race, please see The Future of Humanity.

Then, in 2006, once I'd come to understand that the whole notion of archangels was bogus*, I was told that I was the first of just a very small number of direct incarnations of the very first of the (6) Elohim to come into existence - effectively '10th-dimension' extensions of the 'Creator consciousness'. According to what I'd been told in my channelled information, that would make me the oldest (and supposedly most special) soul in the whole of Creation as well as being one of the very 'highest'-sourced. -- Wow! Worship me quick before you go releasing yourself from such troublesome and completely unsubstantiable stories! wink

* Please see The True Nature of 'The Dark Force' and its Interference and Attacks for an explanation of this.

I am not going so far as actually to believe that any particular elements of my previously channelled information was untrue, because neither I nor anyone else could know whether any of them were true or untrue, and so I've simply let go of it all, seeing it as just stories and not actually 'What Is'. We find out 'what is' simply through allowing our life experience to unfold, and clearing our distorted perceptions by means of self realization methods such as I enumerate in Healing and Self Actualization - The Safest and Quickest Way; not by believing (or disbelieving) anything. I'm better off without any beliefs (or disbeliefs, which are also beliefs) at all.

So, you can be sure that anyone who claims to be an incarnation of an ascended master, angel, archangel, god, goddess or some other specific higher being or indeed prominent historical human has been misled, even if the particular current person is supposedly an enlightened teacher or 'master' or claimed to be a prospective world leader / teacher. Yes, it can't be completely ruled out that (s)he is an incarnation of a higher being (without a name), but as this could never be verified during our Earthly existence, and there is so much deception around, what point in believing anything about your or anyone's origin? Best simply to regard yourself as a manifestation (indeed incarnation) of the all-pervading awareness or fundamental consciousness of which all things both living and non-living are manifestations - as we all are - and to regard any angels, guides or other higher beings who do manifest to you as simply elements of your own core essence displaying themselves to you*, rather than anything external - also being vigilant not to accept communications from such apparent higher beings because they will almost certainly contain covert 'dark force' distortions or agendas.

* My understanding now is that what is really happening in ALL such cases is that, because we can't 'hear' our own deepest (and wisest) thoughts directly, the dark force exploits the situation because it can 'hear' them. What it does is to relay those 'thoughts' full of deep aware knowledge and 'clear vision' to our ordinary minds, at the same time often projecting an impression (visual or otherwise) of a guide, angel or other higher being as the apparent source of the messages or information. The relayed messages actually contain deletions, distortions and insertions to fit the agenda of the dark force in misleading the person and turning him / her away from true and full self realization. That situation is the basis of ALL channelling and nearly all dowsing. More about this in Better Without Channelling and The True Nature of 'The Dark Force' and its Interference and Attacks.

Thus the supposed higher beings are simply illusions created in one's mind by the dark force, using relayed and thus actually adulterated elements of your own deeper knowledge / awareness in order to give them credibility.

Similarly, I've let go of the channelled 'information' (i.e. story) concerning people who are old souls having been incarnating for a long time in the Pleiadean civilization or indeed other extra-terrestrial civilizations before they came to Earth. Maybe such things have been happening, but maybe not. Just having supposed past life memories to back up such scenarios doesn't help us know what the truth is, because we do not know where those 'memories' have come from - whether they were truly our own experiences or whether, for example, they are the memories of parasitic human consciousnesses ('lost souls') attached to us (which healers and psychics would not see because the dark force is responsible for such people's psychic perceptions and doesn't show such things as the parasitic lost souls to them, for that phenomenon is supposed to be a closely guarded secret). I'm as sure as can be, now, that all my apparent past life memories* were not mine at all but belonged to parasitic lost souls attached to me - this having been stage-managed by the dark force for a particularly pernicious purpose.

* Actually this needs qualifying. I have a whole subset of more subtle past life memories, better described as 'impressions' rather than actual 'memories', which I now understand to be ones related to non-sequential, non-karmic previous lifetimes of mine. I explain about the two types of reincarnation in The True Nature of 'The Dark Force' and its Interference and Attacks. Other people would have these too, but they are mostly liable to pass unnoticed by anyone who isn't a no-soul incarnation (that is explained in the latter link reference), and generally, except in very specific situations like when composing music, any memories from karmic past lives would hide the ones from non-sequential incarnations because of their loading with traumas and emotional issues.

The subtle memories from non-sequential, non-karmic incarnations characteristically do not relate to trauma or problems, and because they are being retrieved from a databank that is outside our subjective experience of time, they are not about 'story' as you'd get in memories from karmic, sequential incarnations. The dark force, however, can delve in those memories and use them to concoct no end of enticing but extremely unhelpful stories for you, as it was doing to some extent with me.

Also, even your own deepest aspects cannot indicate for sure whether any such memory from a non-sequential, non-karmic incarnation was actually from an incarnation of yours or of somebody else's, for it is karmic and chronological connections (that are all created by the dark force) between incarnations that make different incarnations easy to recognise as 'mine' or 'not mine'.

It's thus best that we let go of all attachment to 'star child' (or Indigo Child) scenarios and stories about our soul origins and incarnational history, because we can never verify any of them; we can only either be attached to them and in some degree obstructed in our self realization process, or let them go and thus be free. I know which I prefer...


"But several mediums and psychic people have told me I'm an old soul - there must be something in it!"

Yes, as I say, there is indeed something in it - not all of which you'd like at all if you fully understood what's going on. The dark force will repeat a story or indeed lie through many people to seek to convince you of something, and I've experienced that myself. There certainly is a particular quality of 'openness' and deep awareness about many people that I can readily detect and indeed came to associate with 'old soul'*, and undoubtedly this is what causes mediums and psychics also to call those people old souls. But is this interpretation correct? We can believe about this but can never know.

* Please see the section below for an update on this.

All I actually know is that I can generally sense particular people's 'openness' and depth of awareness (which also reflects their openness as healers and a certain openness and flexibility of outlook). A fair proportion of such people appear to my inner vision to have around them a silvery or whitish radiance. I also notice that such aware and 'open' people seem to fall into several distinct types, with their respective levels of depth of awareness, and also tallying to a fair extent with the so-called character structures* (rather unhelpfully named schizoid, masochistic, psychopathic, oral and rigid) described by Barbara Brennan in her classic books on spiritual healing, and this undoubtedly could also tally with particular soul origins (if indeed there really are different soul origins at all!). However, we can't actually know about the latter.

* Please see The Five Human Character Structures - Their True Significance for more precise and up-to-date information about that, including the apparent true significance of those character structures.

You see, supposing you accept a 'reading' that you are an old soul or indeed an angel or Elohim incarnation, and take that as fact about you. Okay, it presumably feels good and may be the long awaited answer to an inner question that had been bugging you*, but what then? You simply are then attached to a bit of story about yourself, which, regardless of its veracity or otherwise, is a belief that would help obstruct your progress to full self realization. The latter and enlightenment is nothing to do with knowing about or perceiving higher beings or supposed higher realities. The 'highest' reality of all is what you open to and perceive directly when you're enlightened - but as it is beyond concepts it can only be experienced - not described (although of course some of us do attempt to describe it in order to assist other people towards enlightenment).

* Almost certainly, when such a question is 'bugging' a person and consciously wanting to be answered, this is because the dark force is interfering with that person, seeking to get him/her taking on and believing a story about his/her past in order to ensnare him/her in an illusory reality - another great reason for keeping well clear of such stories, and indeed letting go of the urge to get answers to questions in one's mind about one's past prior to this life.

An actually useful 'reading' might be something along the lines of "You are fundamentally very open-minded and deeply aware and are a very strong healer [or, healing influence]". Those are observable and reasonably testable characteristics, so no belief needs to be held about that, and such a 'reading' may have a positive effect in that the person might be more motivated then to move more speedily towards enlightenment and self realization and also develop their healing ability.


"You're wrong in saying there are no such things as angels. I know I'm an incarnated angel because I have etheric angel wings, which people can see!"

Somebody wrote in to me to that effect. Also, that person was angry and embittered that people were not taking seriously his or her claim to have been the biblical Daniel, and clearly strongly wanted to be an incarnated angel and feel very, very special.

If there really were any 'external' higher beings at all, being non-physical, they would have no need or cause to have wings. Winged angels are just religious iconography. Therefore, if you and other 'sensitive' people see you as having etheric angel wings, then that represents one of your problems, for part of your awareness has created those energy manifestations in line with a belief of yours, virtually certainly aided and abetted by some dark force interference. The dark force would be very ready to get you attached to the notion of your being an incarnated angel (and thus more special and Divine than most other people)*. Again, what could you do with such 'knowledge' but believe it and feel more 'special' and reinforced in your illusion of separateness and isolation from other people? Would that really be a happy situation for you? Is that really what you want? It's certainly what the dark force seeks for you!

* There's a very important point here. Am I saying that such people have nothing significantly special about them? - No, not at all! Generally speaking, the dark force distorts rather than creates or invents. In other words, it will recognise something special about the person - generally a particular underlying life task that would be detrimental to the dark force and its agenda if that life task were actually manifested. Because the person's own deepest aspects are (usually more or less unsuccessfully) attempting to get that information into his conscious awareness ('ordinary mind'), the dark force relays that information to the person's 'ordinary mind', but in grossly distorted form, so the person will be given the story that he is 'special' in some different and actually highly problematical way.

I well know about this, because it was done to me. My underlying life task, which was to do what I could to promote genuine self realization and weakening of dark force influences, got relayed to me as a whole gaggle of variants of me being destined to imminently become a great world spiritual leader / teacher or even 'king' (specifically, Gilgamesh II), and thus to be effectively a puppet of the dark force rather than being special in any genuinely useful way.

So, if a person is being misled into an attachment to some notion of being 'very special', that is very likely indeed to be a result of the dark force sidetracking the person away from a special and important underlying life task of theirs, which in quite a few cases would be similar to or indeed the same as my own underlying life task relating to bringing about or at least helping in the bringing about of total elimination of the dark force.

Instead, how about working through your thoughts and feelings of wanting to 'know' that you're an angel incarnation (or indeed an incarnation of a biblical personality or an extra-terrestrial) and thus someone 'special', using The Work and the EFT, or, best and easiest of all, the Grounding Post procedure, to clear yourself of such beliefs or illusory realities? Then, provided you carry out that work awarely and diligently, you would become released from your belief that you need to know such things and instead you would get in touch with your deepest truth - that of your innermost essence (the all-pervading fundamental consciousness) and 'What Is'. You would also feel much happier and more 'connected', and your own genuine, intrinsic specialness, including your underlying life task(s) could then properly manifest.


And now, the most helpful understanding of the situation

Actually, in what I've written above I've been playing 'devil's advocate' a bit, because I wanted to hammer it home, that we need to let go of our attachment to 'story' concerning our backgrounds before this lifetime. In fact, the sort of information that I've been able to unearth about our true nature more recently by means of inner inquiry supported by some energy testing is in a different league, because (a) it doesn't claim to be 'truth' or 'fact' but is simply a working model, and (b) it is proving extremely helpful for healing and self realization purposes - much more so than any theory or belief system that I'd previously encountered. Within this particular framework of reference it can actually be extremely useful to 'know' certain things about your past - but NOT the details of any past lives that you may have had.

On the basis of this working model there are certain pieces of information that really can help you in understanding your healing needs and also your compatibilities or otherwise with particular people (extremely useful for harmonious and happy living). However, there is no need or point in seeking to gain past life information, because the best self healing / self realization methods don't require any of that, and they release even the apparently most intractable past life issues 'as easy as pie' in a grounded and joyful way without having to re-live nor analyse anything, nor indeed know whether any particular issue was based in a past life (of yours) at all.

My current understanding is that the real situation (as at least can be determined in the sense of what takes us forward most effectively on our self healing / self realization paths) is pretty well the reverse of what the vast majority of people on so-called spiritual paths believe. I now understand that those who appear to many to be the oldest souls are actually what would get regarded as incarnations of NEW souls (i.e. NOT old souls at all) - and, as far as I can make out at the moment, I'm one of them.

This makes perfect sense if you stop and think a bit more deeply than hitherto. We are ALL manifestations and thus incarnations of fundamental consciousness - 'the Ultimate' as far as anyone can tell - and thus those people who are new incarnations of fundamental consciousness would inevitably be the 'purest', least distorted and most aware - the most overt manifestations of fundamental consciousness. The more sequential soul incarnations a person has been through, the more distorted and unaware is that person. Stands to reason!

However, there is a catch about all this. Virtually universally, people have not understood what the 'soul' really is. Strictly speaking, people who, until late November 2008, I would have erroneously called incarnations of new souls are actually not incarnations of souls at all, so that they could be described as no-soul incarnations!! What they are, in fact, is direct incarnations of fundamental consciousness, which is 'the Ultimate' as far as anyone can tell.

WTF?! Has this Philip Goddard guy lost his balls altogether this time?

Quite possibly (I just have a quick check - but no, he still has the same old two!) - but, for every bit of madness in his method there's at least as much method in his madness! wink The point here is that I have come to realize that anyone who is truly outside the deceptions of the dark force and functioning well actually has no soul - or rather, there would be no observations or experiences that point to there being such a thing, so the concept of oneself having a soul would be meaningless. What the soul really is, is a certain level of the incarnated being's consciousness that has got messed about with by the dark force, so causing the person to sequentially reincarnate from that 'soul'. In that way it does appear to be a real 'thing' and indeed a vehicle for our incarnations.

But to somebody who has incarnated straight from fundamental consciousness (in other words, who is what I had been actually misleadingly calling an incarnation of a new soul), and who remains untampered-with so that (s)he reverts to fundamental consciousness upon death, there is just untampered consciousness and actually nothing within or about that, that is definable as 'soul'.

The soul, then, is one of the currently normal human dysfunctions. It reflects what is in effect a pathological state. No wonder so many of the religions regard the soul as so important!

The only thing that a person without a 'soul' (i.e. a no-soul incarnation), such as myself, lacks, therefore, is an extremely serious dysfunction! In such a person, the 'substance' (consciousness 'energy') that would otherwise be a soul is simply healthily functioning consciousness, not distorted into a 'vessel' or 'vehicle' for the highly pathological type of reincarnation that the vast majority of people undergo.

Think of a person's sequential series of soul incarnations as being a pathological, hijacked extension of a single basic incarnation of fundamental consciousness, because the person has been prevented each time from dying fully and reverting to fundamental consciousness so that a true and full new incarnation could occur.

I explain in The True Nature of 'The Dark Force' and its Interference and Attacks how and why it is that no-soul incarnations (i.e. what I was previously mistakenly calling incarnations of new souls) are getting trapped by lost souls who have themselves got trapped by lost souls and programmed by the dark force. In this particular scenario, as I understand it, the executive aspect of the dark force, which interferes with us all, is actually nothing more than thought form complexes derived from people messing about in the astral sub-reality (such as in astral travel, use of special powers and 'dark' practices; I explain more about this in The True Nature of 'The Dark Force' and its Interference and Attacks).

According to this scenario, what appears to many to be past life experiences or traumas are actually memories and traumas carried by lost souls that are attached to the particular people, who latter may well actually be no-soul incarnations - that is, direct incarnations of fundamental consciousness. That certainly appears to be the case for me, and I can now see that my clearance of my apparently massive emotional traumas and entity / dark force interference issue had been tremendously held back by my accepting the notion of my being a highly evolved old soul carrying past life traumas of my own. I was able to move forward much faster through seeing myself as a pure incarnation of fundamental consciousness with attached lost souls that I was then in the process of healing and clearing from myself.

I'm not saying that any of us need to believe that all this is true in an absolute sense, but I am saying that at least for many it would be a MUCH more helpful framework of reference for truly effective healing work than the notion of an evolutionary sequence of past lives that we've been through. So, for 'old soul', best to think 'no-soul or little reincarnated soul incarnation'.

You can read more about this scenario in The True Nature of 'The Dark Force' and its Interference and Attacks.

In Healing and Self Actualization - The Safest and Quickest Way I put forward a range of methods for clearing yourself of dark force interference and influence, and indeed for clearing any soul programming of your own and thus becoming effectively a no-soul incarnation once more.



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